Elizabeth II faisait le salut nazi déjà à 6 ans !
The Sun : The Queen NAZI Salute Film
Le journal britanique The Sun a publié vendredi 17 juillet 2015 une vidéo de la future reine Elizabeth II faisant le salut nazi déjà à 6 ans.
Prince Harry d’Angleterre nazi
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On essaie de nous faire croire qu’il s’agit seulement d’une mauvaise blague ! On nous prend vraiment pour des cons !
En écoutant la radio française France-Info, le 18 juillet 2015, on apprenait qu’en fait non seulement Edouard VIII, mais aussi Edouard VII était nazi, et que la famille royale anglaise était allemande à l’origine, et liée à toute une noblesse pro-nazie. Elle est venue du Hanovre au XVIIIe siècle et a changé son nom en 1914 parce que ça la foutait mal de porter un nom allemand pendant la guerre. Écoutez bien :
Mais comment s’appelait donc la famille royale anglaise avant de se déguiser, en remplaçant son nom allemand par un nom anglais. Écoutez bien pour l’apprendre :
Queen Elizabeth II Nazi Salute
vidéo publiée le 17 juillet 2015
Le salut nazi de la reine d’Angleterre Elizabeth II à 6 ans
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News publiée le 18/07/2015 à 12h28
Par Z.Y.
Le journal britannique The Sun a publié ce samedi des images de la future reine d’Angleterre Elizabeth II en train de faire le salut nazi alors qu’elle n’a que 6 ans.
Voilà un nouveau scandale dont la famille royale britannique se serait bien passé. Ce vendredi, le tabloïd anglais The Sun a publié des images pour le moins embarrassantes de la Reine d’Angleterre Elizabeth II. Le quotidien à sensation s’est procuré une petite vidéo d’archive datant de 1933 où l’on voit la future reine d’Angleterre s’exercer à faire le salut nazi.
Le numéro de ce samedi 18 juillet du journal affiche donc une photo extraite de cette vidéo et titre "Their Royal Heilnesses", faisant ainsi un jeu de mots avec le mot "Highnesses" qui veut dire "Altesses" et le "Heil Hitler" indissociable du salut nazi. Buckingham Palace s’est dit "déçu" par la publication de ces images. "Il est décevant qu’un film tourné il y a 80 ans et provenant apparemment des archives personnelles de la famille royale ait été obtenu et exploité de cette manière", a déclaré un porte-parole dans un communiqué.
Des liens gênants avec le régime nazi
Les images auraient été tirées d’un film de famille sans doute tourné en 1933 alors que la petite Elizabeth n’a que six ans dans la demeure d’été de la famille royale, le château écossais de Balmoral. La petite fille est accompagnée de sa soeur Margaret, sa mère et son oncle le futur roi Edouard VIII qui abdiqua bien avant son couronnement.
Les liens de ce dernier avec le régime nazi est encore débattu en Angleterre. Edouard VIII a ainsi rencontré Hitler en Allemagne en 1937 juste après avoir abdiqué pour épouser une roturière américaine, divorcée de surcroît, Wallis Simpson. The Sun a justifié la publication de ces images : "Nous les publions aujourd’hui en sachant qu’elles ne donnent en aucune manière une mauvaise image de notre reine, de ses défuntes sœur et mère", mais parce qu’elles offraient "un aperçu fascinant des préjugés tordus d’Edouard VIII".
Une source de la famille royale a alors indiqué : "Le service et le dévouement de la reine et de sa famille au bien-être de notre nation durant la guerre (la Seconde Guerre mondiale, ndlr) et les 63 ans que la reine a passés à établir des relations entre les nations et les peuples parlent d’eux-mêmes".
Rappelons que le Sun a publié il y a 10 ans des photos du prince Harry en tenue nazi lors d’une soirée déguisée. Ce dernier avait alors présenté ses excuses par la suite.
Édouard VIII, roi nazi ?
http://tvmag.lefigaro.fr/programme-…
Par Valérie Sasportas
Mis à jour le 06/02/2013 à 11h22 | Publié le 06/02/2013 à 10h31
Pour beaucoup, le simple nom Édouard VIII évoque cette histoire glamour, où le beau roi d’Angleterre, dans une allocution radiophonique le 11 décembre 1936, annonça qu’il renonçait au trône par amour pour Wallis Simpson, scandaleuse Américaine deux fois divorcée.
Mais depuis quelque temps, la légende s’effondre, sous le poids d’une autre explication à son abdication : le roi aurait été nazi, jusque pendant la guerre, trahissant sa patrie et la France, où il s’était exilé. Jusque-là, on ne parlait que de rumeurs, rien ne pouvant attester cette théorie.
Mais le documentaire signé Gaël Chauvin et diffusé ce mercredi soir sur France 3 dans le cadre du magazine L’Ombre d’un doute, présenté par Franck Ferrand, affirme pouvoir le prouver.
Durant de longues minutes, le « dandy populaire », comme le qualifie le spécialiste des têtes couronnées Stéphane Bern, apparaît en noceur capricieux au coeur d’artichaut. Les commentaires s’alanguissent sur ses piètres qualités d’amant. Puis sur les techniques apprises par Wallis Simpson dans des salons de massages érotiques en Chine, pour « mettre le prince à ses pieds ». Cela ne fait pas d’Édouard VIII un nazi.
Soudain, le ton change. « Les raisons de l’abdication sont si choquantes que les services secrets britanniques vont s’appliquer à en effacer les traces », affirme Philippe Chassaigne, professeur d’histoire contemporaine. « Ils ont fait en sorte que le plus lourd disparaisse », déclare un autre historien, Jean des Cars.
Mais tout n’a pas disparu. L’équipe de Franck Ferrand dévoile un rapport de 277 pages issues des archives secrètes du FBI, attestant que le souverain britannique aurait été un grand admirateur d’Adolf Hitler, au point de lui révéler les failles des positions françaises, mû par la perspective d’un retour sur le trône en cas de victoire. Ces mêmes documents affirment que c’est par l’intermédiaire de Wallis Simpson, maîtresse de l’ambassadeur d’Allemagne Joachim von Ribbentrop, que le duc de Windsor aurait noué ses premiers contacts avec les officiels nazis. Les archives le montrent en voyage de noces en Allemagne, serrant chaleureusement la main du Führer. Il visite le pays en sa compagnie et lui écrit une lettre commençant par « Cher M. Hitler ».
« Balivernes ! », s’insurge l’historien François Kersaudy, auteur de Winston Churchill, Le pouvoir de l’imagination (éditions Tallandier). Selon lui, le rapport du FBI ne repose que sur des rumeurs. Pire : le livre présenté comme l’élément déclencheur de l’émission, intitulé Le roi qui a trahi, de Martin Allen, ne serait qu’un « tissu de mensonges », ayant valu à son auteur une condamnation. Le mystère demeure.
AVEC LES RÉCENTES RÉVÉLATIONS ET EN TENANT COMPTE D’EDOUARD VII ET DU PRINCE HARRY NAZIS EUX-AUSSI IL N’Y A PLUS DE MYSTÈRE AU SUJET D’EDOUARD VIII
Le salut nazi qui embarrasse la reine d’Angleterre
http://www.lefigaro.fr/internationa…
Julien Licourt
Mis à jour le 18/07/2015 à 11:39 Publié le 18/07/2015 à 11:13
Extrait :
Le film a été tourné dans la demeure d’été de la famille royale, à Balmoral, en 1933 ou 1934, au moment où Hitler monte en puissance en Allemagne, devenant chancelier, puis Führer. Issu d’archives familiales, il est resté inconnu du grand public pendant près de 80 ans.
On y voit Elizabeth jouant avec l’un de ses chiens, puis lever le bras, dans un geste sans équivoque. À côté d’elle, sa petite sœur danse et semble imiter sa sœur, dans des gestes enfantins, semble-t-il poussée par son oncle. C’est ensuite au tour de la mère des deux enfants de faire un salut hitlérien, et enfin au futur Edouard VIII de s’y plier.
Sympathisant nazi
Ce dernier est régulièrement présenté par les historiens comme un sympathisant nazi. Avant la guerre, sa future femme, Wallis Simpson, fut la maîtresse du dignitaire nazi von Ribbentrop, ambassadeur à Londres. C’est par elle que le futur roi noue des liens avec les dignitaires nazis. En 1937, après son abdication, devenu duc de Windsor, il effectue une visite remarquée en Allemagne où il rencontre Adolphe Hitler.
Le duc de Windsor, ancien roi d’Angleterre, Wallis Simpson et Adolphe Hitler, en Allemagne, en 1937. Crédits photo : Rue des Archives/© Mary Evans/Rue des Archives
Edouard VIII était encore nazi en 1970 vers la fin de sa vie
Il était alors au coeur de l’establishment britanique !
Enregistré le 18 juillet 2015 sur Direct 8 vers 20h43
Il y a Edouard VIII, Edouard VII, le prince Harry,
et qui d’autre qu’on ne sait pas ! ? !
LA FAMILLE ROYALE SOMMÉE DE RÉVÉLER SES ARCHIVES
Elizabeth II faisant un salut nazi : la famille royale sommée de révéler ses archives
http://www.rtl.fr/actu/internationa…
Des historiens et membres du Parlement réclament que les archives royales soient ouvertes après l’image publiée du salut nazi de la Reine.
La une du Sun montrant la Reine d’Angleterre en train de faire un salut nazi à l’âge de six ans fait couler beaucoup d’encre outre-manche. L’image particulièrement embarrassante pour la royauté britannique a suscité un débat sur l’ouverture des archives royale réclamée par nombre d’historiens et de parlementaires.
Selon le Guardian, les archives de la monarchie sont connues pour abriter une riche correspondance entre les membres de la famille royale et des dignitaires nazis. Le journal cite Karina Urbach, une historienne qui enseigne à l’Université de Londres et qui a travaillé aux archives de la famille royale, dans le château de Windsor. Elle explique la "censure" que pratique la famille royale : "On n’a accès à rien de politique au-delà de 1918". Elle décrit également avoir vu des étagères entières de boites contenant des documents des années 30 auxquels personne n’a accès.
Des archives de la période post-45 détruites par la famille royale
"Nous savons qu’après 1945 il y a eu une vaste opération de nettoyage" raconte l’historienne. "La famille royale s’inquiétait de voir rejaillir leur correspondance et l’a fait détruire". Le parlementaire travailliste Paul Flynn a plaidé pour une ouverture totale des archives de la famille royale. "C’était une période particulièrement intéressante de notre histoire, nous avions un futur roi qui flirtait avec des nazis, nous devons connaître la vérité. Nous avons besoin de plus d’ouverture".
Royals told : open archives on family ties to Nazi regime
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/…
Saturday 18 July 2015 19.09 BST
Jamie Doward and Tracy McVeigh
Historian urges that secret correspondence be made public to reveal the truth after Queen’s Nazi salute footage released
The Duke and Duchess of Windsor meet with Adolf Hitler in Munich in 1937. Photograph : PA
Buckingham Palace has been urged to disclose documents that would finally reveal the truth about the relationship between the royal family and the Nazi regime of the 1930s.
The Sun’s decision to publish footage of the Queen at six or seven years old performing a Nazi salute, held in the royal archives and hitherto unavailable for public viewing, has triggered concerns that the palace has for years sought to suppress the release of damaging material confirming the links between leading royals and the Third Reich.
Unlike the National Archives, the royal archives, which are known to contain large volumes of correspondence between members of the royal family and Nazi politicians and aristocrats, are not compelled to release material on a regular basis. Now, as that relationship becomes the subject of global debate, historians and MPs have called for the archives to be opened up so that the correspondence can be put into context.
“The royal family can’t suppress their own history for ever,” said Karina Urbach of the Institute of Historical Research at the University of London. “This is censorship. Censorship is not a democratic value. They have to face their past. I’m coming from a country, Germany, where we all have to face our past.”
The Sun was subjected to a backlash on social media, after publishing 80-year-old home movie footage from the grounds of Balmoral Castle, in which a laughing Elizabeth, her mother, Prince Edward (later Edward VIII) and Princess Margaret, were shown making Nazi salutes. Barbara Keeley, Labour MP for Worsley and Eccles South, retweeted a message that read : “Hey @TheSun, if you want to stir up some moral outrage about a misjudgement in history, look a bit closer to home.”
The Sun’s Stig Abell defends publication
of Queen’s Nazi salute footage
Many expressed incredulity that the paper had published the actions of a child. But the managing editor, Stig Abell, defended publication. “It is an important and interesting issue, the extent to which the British aristocracy – notably Edward VIII, in this case – in the 1930s, were sympathetic towards fascism,” he said. The paper declined to comment on how it acquired the footage. Legal experts suggested a police investigation was unlikely, especially given the collapse of recent cases in which Sun reporters walked free after being accused of paying public officials for information.
“On the face of it, this information has been obtained legitimately and used in accordance with what the newspaper feels is appropriate interest,” said John Cooper, QC.
“It’s really a question not so much on the law but whether it’s in the public interest for this material to find its way into a newspaper. The public interest in this document being produced is nothing to do with the royal family but how startling it is that in 1933 people were so naive about the evils of Nazism.”
Urbach, author of Go-Betweens for Hitler, a new book about the relationship between the royals and the Nazis, has spent years trying to gain access to documents relating to Nazi Germany held in the royal archives. She described the archives, in Windsor Castle’s Round Tower, as “a beautiful place to work but not if you want to work on 20th-century material … you don’t get any access to anything political after 1918”.
She described seeing shelves of boxes containing material relating to the 1930s that no one is allowed to research. She suggested that much of the archives’ interwar material no longer existed.
“We know that after ’45 there was a big cleanup operation,” Urbach said. “The royals were very worried about correspondence resurfacing and so it was destroyed.”
Helen McCarthy, a historian of modern Britain at Queen Mary University of London, echoed Urbach’s comments, tweeting that “if Royal Archives were more accessible & welcoming to researchers, ‘shock’ discoveries like Sun’s front page could be put in better context”.
Historian Alex von Tunzelmann suggested on Twitter that the lack of access to the royal archives for historians and the public “is profoundly undemocratic. We need much greater access. We need to be grown up about it. The history of this country belongs to the public”.
Paul Flynn, Labour MP for Newport West, a member of parliament’s influential political and constitutional reform committee and a prominent supporter of the recent release of Prince Charles’s confidential memos to politicians, said the royal family needed to allow full access to its archives, including those relating to Germany in the 1930s.
“It was a very interesting part of our history, when we had a future king who was flirting with the Nazis and the Blackshirts, and we need to know the truth of it,” Flynn said. “We need more openness. The royals have great influence still. Charles is still the most important lobbyist in the land.”
The Sun’s decision to publish the 17 seconds of footage, thought to have been shot in 1933 or 1934, has served as an unwelcome reminder for the royal family of its past links to the Nazis. The Queen, then aged six or seven, joins her mother, then Duchess of York, and her uncle Edward, the Prince of Wales, in raising an arm in salute as she plays alongside her younger sister, Princess Margaret. Her mother then raises her arm in the style of a Nazi salute and, after glancing towards her mother, the Queen copies the gesture. Prince Edward is also seen raising his arm.
Edward, who abdicated to marry the American socialite Wallis Simpson, faced numerous accusations of being a Nazi sympathiser. The couple were photographed meeting Hitler in Munich in October 1937.
A palace spokesman said : “It is disappointing that film, shot eight decades ago and apparently from Her Majesty’s personal family archive, has been obtained and exploited in this manner.”
Queen’s Nazi salute video : a royal home movie like no other
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/…
Saturday 18 July 2015 20.00 BST
Tracy McVeigh
Although two small girls could not have understood what their Nazi salute signified as they played in the garden, Adolf Hitler’s dictatorship was already rounding up political opponents, targeting Jews and burning books
Sir Oswald Mosley inspecting members of his British Union of Fascists in Royal Mint Street, London, in October 1936. Photograph : Central Press/Getty Images
The year was probably 1933, possibly 1934, and in the manicured gardens of a country house on what looks like a summer day, a family are dancing around for the camera.
A young woman looks straight toward the camera and smiles before raising her arm in an unmistakable Nazi salute. Her laughing children giggle and copy the gesture. Then the man in the frame joins in too. But this is not Germany in the first year of the Third Reich, this is Balmoral Castle in Scotland. And the man in the home movie is Edward, later King Edward VIII ; the young woman is the wife of the future King George VI, and the two girls are her daughters, Princess Elizabeth and her little sister Margaret.
What could they have known of the horror that was steadily unfolding in a Germany that was now in the hands of one of the most nefarious regimes in world history ?
Naturally the two little girls would have had no understanding of the significance of their gesture or the dark times that were unfolding in German towns and cities. But disturbing signs of the times were there for others to read.
Hitler had come to power in January 1933. On 1 April that year a law was passed to exclude Jews from the civil service and from teaching, and there was an organised boycott of Jewish shops and offices. On 27 March the English-language News Week ran pictures of the boycott and burnings of books written by Jewish authors outside libraries. In May, Joseph Goebbels organised another book burning by university students. In October a legal register of “racially pure” journalists in Germany’s newspapers was opened.
The Dachau concentration camp was already open, imprisoning homosexuals, communists and anyone else who might be critical of Chancellor Hitler’s new regime. He had already declared an Aryan “master race” and anti-Jewish policies were creating violent social and political exclusion. The persecution and discrimination that was to progress into the murders of the Holocaust was under way. Whether the world was paying sufficient attention is another question.
“Of course people knew,” said historian Alex Von Tunzelmann. “It’s completely revisionist to start saying people didn’t know what the Nazis were doing. Nobody thinks the Queen is a Nazi, but that’s not the point. It’s a myth that no one knew in the 1930s what the Nazis were about. Yes of course we do have the advantage of hindsight, but lots of people in 1933 had real concerns about where this was going. The fact is that a lot of people supported the Nazis as we know, a lot of people in the aristocracy thought this was the perfect obstacle to the threat of communism.”
Von Tunzelmann is referring to figures such as British fascist and antisemite Oswald Mosley, whose first wedding was attended by George V and his second, to Diana Mitford, in 1936 by Hitler and Goebbels. According to Harry Leslie Smith, an RAF war veteran and author, it was well known that establishment figures and some members of the royal family harboured Nazi sympathies. In 1933 Smith was delivering beer around the streets of Bradford.
“I remember the 1930s vividly so I wasn’t surprised when I saw Edward VIII instructing our present Queen along with her adult mother to give the Nazi salute,” he said. “Everyone from my generation knew that many in the royal family as well as from the establishment had Nazi sympathies.
“The world then was neatly divided between the rich and the poor. Because of the Great Depression hunger was so intense that profound malnutrition stunted the growth of a generation. In 1933 there were no benefits, no NHS, and six million men were unemployed. It was like Armageddon in many neighbourhoods because the poverty caused by austerity and a failed economy was intense and unrelenting.
“The dire financial circumstances of the 1930s compelled me to be a child labourer, so adults didn’t treat me as one would treat a 10-year-old today. So I was privy to the angst and anger of my elders who were upset at governments that forgot them and dismissive of royalty who were detached by wealth.
“When that photo was taken I was trudging with a barrow down the despair-filled streets of Bradford and didn’t have time to monkey around with my uncles who were trying to keep their own families fed. The photo shows how different politically, economically and emotionally that royal family was to ordinary Britain. Sadly, many like Edward VIII, in positions of authority, became enamoured with Nazism instead of social democracy to fix our social and economic ills,” he said.
Historians have pointed out that antisemitism was rife across Europe, as was an overwhelming focus on the “red threat” from communism, rather than the rise of fascism. The German links of the royals were strong – George VI and Edward VIII were both of German descent through their mother Mary of Teck and great-grandfather Prince Albert. Prince Philip had four sisters, three of whom were members of the Nazi party and one married to a Luftwaffe pilot. Philip’s family were not invited to his 1947 wedding to Princess Elizabeth because of how such wartime connections might go down with the public, but they holidayed discreetly at royal houses as family guests. Philip’s friend Prince Bernhard, father of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, was in the SS. He fled to England during the second world war and asked to work in British Intelligence, much to the suspicion of the War Admiralty. But King George VI insisted, even lobbying Churchill, and he was set to work in the Allied War Planning Councils.
Royals were not the only British citizens to throw the salute pre-war. In 1938 the English football team did so at a friendly game in Berlin’s Olympic Stadium, causing controversy at home. By then Hitler had annexed Austria.
Edward VIII, who had abdicated by 1936 to marry Wallis Simpson, also gave a Nazi salute to Hitler. Edward first began communicating with Hitler around the time of this footage and was photographed with him in 1937 in Munich – with the Führer hoping he might become his “puppet king”. The sentiments of the Queen’s uncle were “tantamount to treason”, historian John Costello said, as the then-Duke told a reporter during the war : “It would be a tragic thing for the world if Hitler was overthrown, Hitler is the right and logical leader of the German people. Hitler is a very great man.”
The Duke of Windsor thought Britain had to be bombed into an alliance with the Third Reich and blamed “Jews and Reds” for the war, says Dr Karina Urbach, a historian at the University of London, She described the Sun’s film as “remarkable” for showing that Edward “was already welcoming the Hitler regime as Prince of Wales”.
“He could well be teaching the Queen and Princess Margaret how to do the salute,” she said. “Hitler’s movement had been growing fast since 1929 and many German relatives of the royal family were attracted to it.
“It is a fascist salute and we know the Queen Mum went to Italy in 1929 and would have seen the Fascist salute. It is really important to understand that the attitude to fascism was determined by the attitude to communism and the royal family is very anti-communist because their relatives were killed by communists. They see fascism as a positive thing.
“My suspicion is that George VI (Edward’s brother) is filming this. He always filmed. It’s a person close to the children filming them and encouraging this.” She said it was time the issue of Edward’s politics was “brought into the open”.
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